Had to laugh at this story. Man calls into the Jeremy Vine show. Tells the researcher that he wished he had got the jab because he caught the nasty you know what bug. Researcher thinks, aha, good story, we'll have him on.
John had it planned. Live on air his story took a different turn. He wasn't going to get the jab because of the thousands of adverse reactions and deaths reported on the Government Yellow Card system.
Vine did what a lot of radio presenters do, butt in when the conversation is not going the way they want it to go. He stuttered and stumbled, trying to derail John. But John stuck with it, he used the 'broken record' method. When you know you are right you repeat the same words over and over again.
Vine was riled, he tried to rubbish John's reasoning. Vine has had a lot of practice manipulating other people's ideas to suit the agenda he is employed to push. Got to look after his job.
His answer to John's mention of the Yellow Card System was that it has not been proven as fact. Clutching at straws there, Vine. It's a system that the Government set up to record adverse reactions. Thousands upon thousands of people have made their reports. Are they all liars? Oh sorry, maybe I should use the word misinformation.
There was only one option for Vine, cut him off, and so he did. Good on ya John. This story was reported by Rachel Elnaugh of Dragons Den fame. She caught the conversation on her car radio.
Time for breakfast. I'll be back later with a garden update. Toodle pip.
Vine is partial and biased. I'm glad this caller managed to get the better of him.
ReplyDeleteAmanda from Sussex
John made me smile.
DeleteI think a lot of people have been put off because of the side effects of the vaccine. Out of 10 relatives who were vaccinated only 2 had no reaction, most getting a high temperature for 2 days. Like all medication some people will react adversely but that's a chance you take. Sometimes the disease can be fatal while others get a mild dose. I guess we are all different.
ReplyDeleteYes, we are all different, and that's why the jab should not be mandatory. People who declare that everyone is in it together, and not getting jabbed is being selfish, are not acknowledging that everyone is different.
Deleteas an nhs worker I was given the jab first in january good move on the goverment my adult son refuses that is his decision maybe they should just report genuine facts for people to decide not bbc propaganda
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning the facts were limited because it was all so new. Now we know more about it the adverse reactions from getting the jab should be reported but they are not. The media are censoring everything, which is why I applaud John's attempts at speaking out on national radio.
DeleteJeremy Vine has form. Big exposé coming on what he did to Alex Belfield (Voice of Reason on YouTube) in revenge because Alex outed him in an FOI for spending licence payers money on a drinks party.
ReplyDeleteI know about the Alex thing. It's maddening that the big corporations think they rule the airwaves.
DeleteI've never heard of the Yellow Card before. Just looked it up. Even if all the reports were attributed directly to the vaccine it still gives an enormous recommendation for the vaccine as these make an incredibly small percentage of those taking the dose. Possibly less than paracetamol...
ReplyDeleteYou miss the point. In the beginning there was no information of this nature available, so people were not able to make an informed choice. It is an experimental drug, the message sent out was that it was tested, and safe. It was not. All those who have been jabbed are the guinea pigs.
DeleteThe fact that you have never heard of the yellow card system, it's called Vaers in the USA, means that it was not widely publicised. It was kept a secret, so people did not report their adverse reactions. It is possible that there are many more A R because people thought that a sore arm and a headache were normal. Every one should be reported.
Risk assessment is a personal responsibility. People are unable to do that if they don't have all the facts.
According to the Govt themselves, only 2-10% of all injuries and deaths are reported. There are over 1500 deaths reported as at 4 August, along with other very serious life changing injuries. Therefore, as admitted by the Govt, it is actually a while lot more. UK Column News have a very easy to read Yellow Card System, unlike the Govt's, which I found really hard to get to and work out. If UK Column can take the Govt's figures and put them into an easy to read format, why couldn't the Govt, bearing in mind the vast difference in funding?
DeleteSimon: Paracetamol may be dangerous, but nobody is being pressured into taking it.
DeleteDr Vernon Coleman has asked Jeremy Vine if he will have him on his show. Jeremy can get as many experts in as he wants and Dr Coleman will be alone. If Jeremy is so sure of 'the science', then surely he would welcome the opportunity of being able to prove it. Who knows, it might even persuade more people to get jabbed? The problem would be if Dr Coleman destroyed the experts' 'science', of course.
ReplyDeleteYou're right that it's not terribly well heard of and I agree that people need to have information to make informed choices. I'd argue that not many of us are sufficiently medically trained to make sensible decisions without some guidance. I'd also say that headaches and a sore arm are not ideal but certainly more preferable than some of the effects of Covid19 and certainly better than death. All vaccines have side effects ( see also policy, measles etc) but ultimately for the majority of people its certainly safer than catching the disease.
ReplyDeleteI heard the Jeremy Vine thing. I don't know if it was the same one as it was a few weeks ago when I heard it. He was deliberately talking over the callers and trying to make out that they were stupid if they disagreed with having the jab. The callers were making valid points but his reaction was, 'well, we're obviously getting nowhere here', and cut them off. Obnoxious little toe rag.
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