Friday 21 October 2022

Thinking about it.

 I see the mass jabbing season has come round again. A new wave of advertisements and articles are urging people to make an appointment. Chemist shops are offering the treatment. Medical centres are contacting their patients to come along to the surgery. They are probably bypassing me, I haven't heard from them. I am on their records as a 'thinking about it' patient. 

People I meet say they have had their fourth or fifth, or whatever it is now. They seem happy. Good for them. Some people are getting two together at the same time, one in each arm. Saves going back twice I suppose. 

It has now come back to the surface again as a talking point. I have had mine, have you had yours yet? What was it like, any side effects? No, perfectly fine, just a bit tired that's all. 

Am I allowed to say on here that I am still thinking about it, or will that bring on more troll comments? Is anybody brave enough to say, well it's your choice, without giving me a load of abuse. I will hold my breath. 

Video uploading, going shopping, catch ya later. ilona 

  

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  1. I'm quite happy for people to make their own choice about the vax. My best friend won't have it and that's fine by me. I've had 3 but won't have any more due to very bad side effects after all 3. She's fine about me having 3. It doesn't prevent infection or transmission so what is all the fuss about avoiding unvaxxed people? Friends are worth keeping especially if they are kind and supportive like mine.

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    1. I have a very good friend who hasn't, and her husband has. A lovely couple who are just getting on with their lives.

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  2. Sorry that was me Sally forgot to put my name

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  3. I did have two vacs back in the beginning. Won't be having another one. I have known so many young people this year lose their lives suddenly and I know many vaccinated people who have tested positive for covid. No more for me thanks. Clayre

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    1. Thank you for your comment. Just about everyone I know has had a positive test result, some more than once.

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  4. Same here in Ireland. Ads on tv and some chemists advertising both covid and or flu jab. I got 2 which i regret but lucky no side effects or covid. The 2nd was was july last year. Too many getting sick specily after the 3rd and some have got the 4th of 5th by now. If thats what they want to do good luck to but i don't want to hear anyones vax stories or history or side effects you got from whatever one you chose this time. Phizer are in trouble and the others will follow. The truth is coming out. But will any one or company be brought to justice? It does not stop tranmission or passing it on but yet its still being pushed? I got 2 calls for the 3rd jab or boaster but ignored both oh i stopped flu jab too 3 years ago i am domen with vaccines i manage my health with diet and a few supplements and its worked so far

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    1. Yes, the truth is coming out. We have to be patient. A good diet and plenty of exercise pays dividends.

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  5. I am unvaccinated and plan staying that way. I live with Paul he had a kidney removed a few years back . (due to cancer ) He has had them all and will continue to get them. I know of only three people who have not had any, Each to their own .
    deb in essex

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    1. A personal choice. I know someone who had a kidney removed and decided to get the treatment. Understandable. He is travelling at the moment. I wait to hear of his adventures.

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  6. I had proper flu when I was 18 collapsed in the kitchen and had to be carried back to bed. I went back to work after two week but ended up off work about a week later, as I could not waken up in the morning, I had post viral debility, so spent another two weeks of works and it took months to fully recover. I have had flu since but never 5hat bad, so I get my injection. I have had my covid vaccinations, had covid in March and fortunately was not ill. You must make up your own mind.

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    1. You must do what is best for your own health.

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  7. I've had texts and letter but undecided - I don't know the longterm effects x

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    1. There is a lot of data coming out now. There wasn't any in the beginning, so now people have more information to make an informed choice.

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  8. Unfortunately, the advertising to get jabbed is very one-sided, with no mention of the serious risks involved for otherwise healthy youngish people (cardiac problems, myocarditis etc). Even for the more at-risk older people the jab is moot as to whether it is actually any use - it does not fulfill the two prime requirements of a vaccine, stop you getting infected and stop you passing the infection on. As to whether it moderates symptoms or likelihood of hospitalisation your guess is as good as mine.

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    1. The advertising keeps on coming. They want to reel as many people in as they can. At least there is more information out now so people don't have to blindly take the treatment.

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  9. I had the first two but after the second I was extremely ill. I had a flare up of my RA and extreme weakness . I won't be having any more.

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  10. Had the first two and had side effects which I still have to this day, two wasted years of my life which I won't get back! Try telling Dr's etc its the covid, jab, not interested, scans test anything, oh no it's not the covid jab, just given pills for the side effects, looked on the yellow card reporting list and last time I looked there were over 149 people with the same side effects, we can't all be lying! So its a no from me again even though I have other health issues, my choice, hubby has his, his choice. Jo

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    1. Your story is typical of what has happened to millions of people. I hope you are able to find a way to improve your general health.

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  11. It's your body and your choice.
    I have had flu and pneumonia a few years ago and was really poorly. I got covid a couple of months ago, I have no idea where I picked it up. I was poorly but nothing worse than a bad cold. I'm fully vaccinated. Did the vaccine mean I didnt suffer as much as I could have? I suppose I wont ever know the answer to that one.

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    1. That is a question no one can answer. All I hear is, 'it could have been worse'. How do they know?

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    2. You are absolutely right, you can’t know. You can however look at deaths and people hospitalized because of COVID and check whether the people are vaccinated or not. Then adjust for other factors such as age and underlying conditions.

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    3. Steph. Those types of tests will be done eventually. It takes time.

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  12. I’m unvaccinated and have never had the flu vax either. I’m not going to do an about turn and change my mind about this and the constant pressure, virtue signalling from others over the last two years has really stressed me out. I’m not very pleased it’s all starting up again and I’m glad I’m off both the NHS and my GPs radar so that I don’t get the incessant texts or reminder letters. Once your on this particular band Waggoner really is relentless. I know a few people with life changing side effects after having the pharmaceutical concoction, and two healthy
    people who died suddenly. My husband and I had the delta variant last year and were not particularly ill and recovered within a week. It certainly wasn’t something we felt we needed a vaccine for. I keep myself healthy and avoid doctors and having seen the conditions in some hospitals would rather die quietly at home if I was ill.

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    1. I am seeing, reading about, and hearing of people who have been ill with all kinds of ailments since getting the treatment. Only yesterday I called on a friend because I hadn't seen her for a while. She opened the door a couple of feet and we had a brief conversation. She looked terrible. Another friend is recovering from an operation, a weee problem. Another friend collapsed at home and is in hospital. Where does it end.

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  13. I’ve had all three jabs and I’ve been fine .
    No side effects at all. I agree people can make their own choices but don’t spread misleading lies about vaccines .
    It is inevitable that some people will have a reaction to the jab. This happens with other vaccines too. The fact that millions and millions of people are getting the covid jab means that there are going to be more people with a reaction. Many people complain about the fact, that they had the jab and still got covid, but they also lived to tell the tale while others have died because they didn’t have the jab.
    My neighbour who refused to have the jab ended up in hospital and died from covid . So don’t preach on about how bad the vaccine is.
    You said that the covid vaccine is an experimental gene therapy, that is a blatant lie, put on to social media by anti-vax groups. You are quite entitled to decide not to have the jab but don’t say it’s not worthwhile , when clearly it saves lives .

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    1. There you go, another Anonymous person who will not put their name to their statement. A couple of points in answer. Millions of people are getting the jabbys because they have been bullied into it. There is only one reason why anyone should ask for it and that is for their own health. It is still classed as experimental until 2023. Not a lie. It might save the lives of people who already have underlying conditions, but the side effects can be life changing.

      I am not prepared to enter into a long conversation with you when you don't have the decency to give your name. I have better things to do with my time. We are never going to agree on this so there is no point. You go your way and I'll go mine. Stalemate.

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  14. Just because a few dozen people make negative comments about the vaccine on your blog does not mean they are right .

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  15. I have had all four jabs. The last booster I had at the same time as the flu jab, which I get every year. The only side effect I had was a sore arm. The vast majority of the people I know have been vaccinated and I don’t know anyone who has had a bad side effect.

    Absolutely your choice not to have the vaccine and if you get abuse for not taking it that is shocking.

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    1. People who have chosen not to take part in this have had to put up with abusive comments from all walks of life. Politicians, the media, and celebrities. It has been a campaign of bullying, nothing less. I hope I live long enough to see these people dragged through the dirt just as they have done with us. We will be vindicated.

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    2. I think most of the abuse has been in response to the nonsense peddled by some that the vaccine alters DNA, makes you infertile and all sorts of other unproven things

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    3. How do you know it is nonsense? Is it because you say it is nonsense? Some things may not be proven now, but will they be proven in the future?

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    4. I know it doesn’t alter DNA because I understand science and the difference between RNA and DNA.

      I also consider the background of people who peddle what I call nonsense. Reptilian species - as an example - I think that is nonsense and, therefore, I would be highly sceptical of anything that they said. Having said that one should speak out against the opinion and not the person. There is no need to be rude to a person just because they are peddling unproven nonsense.

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    5. My understanding is that the vaccines used now are only the mRNA type, the AZ vaccine having been dropped. My understanding of the principle of operation of the mRNA vaccine is to reprogramme cellular protein synthesis to generate the COVID spike protein, so that the immune system is able to build a response in advance of being exposed to the actual COVID spike protein. However, that immune response can only operate when the antibodies encounter the virus, and for a respiratory virus like COVID this means that infection is already under way - the vaccine does nothing to engender mucosal immune responses in the way that prior infection might.
      The issue of side effects as I understand it at least in part relates to the fact that the spike protein itself is potentially damaging to heart and other circulatory tissue, so generating it in quantity from the mRNA vaccine is potentially dangerous, something that seems to be reflected in rising levels of heart problems, particularly in otherwise healthy young people, since the vaccination programme has been extended to ever younger age groups. Personally, if I were under the age of 40s I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, and I certainly would never consent to exposing a child of mine to this vaccine.

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    6. Thank you Will. I think we are following the same narrative.

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    7. Steph. Quote. There is no need to be rude to a person just because they are peddling unproven nonsense.

      I am never rude to any of the other bloggers who in my opinion are widely off the mark with their ideas. What they want to believe is up to them.

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  16. I am also full vaccinated and had no reaction to the first three - wouldn’t have even known I had had an injection. With the last booster the vaccination spot was slightly sore if I poked it. So I didn’t poke it!

    To my knowledge I have not had COVID - have tested periodically and has always been negative - but I wore a mask when in a shop and continue to do so.

    I do get a bit annoyed when people say “I had the Covid vaccination and then x happened” thinking that x happened because they had the COVID vaccination.

    Many vaccinated people I know have had COVID but no one needed to be hospitalized.

    I agree with others, it is your choice not to get vaccinated but with that choice there are consequences.

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    1. There are consequences for whichever side of the fence you sit on. I take full responsibility for my own health. Those who have taken the treatment do not know what the long term effects might be. Some of the data that is coming out shows that this isn't a one solution fixes all situation. For some, a robust natural immunity, a good diet, and plenty of exercise is all that is needed. One of the reasons why I did not go with it was, if I became ill, how would I know what caused it.

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    2. Oops wow 4 jabs and a mask i would hope you be super protrected lol i have family members the same 4 jabs and still masking up. Its the like of you who is keeping this going on. Have you not paid to attention to what phizer and the rest have have been addmitting? and yet people lining up for more? Does not stop getting it or passing on. Its people like annoying me you hyprondriac wear 2 masks get your yearly jab till you drop.

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    3. I do hope I am as protected as I can be by being fully vaccinated and wearing a mask. I don’t wear two masks, rather I wear the FFP3 mask which does provide protection. Forgot to say I also wash my hands and use hand sanitizer. Not quite sure how my activity is “keeping this going on.”

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    4. I understand what you are saying, Linda. We have to cut them some slack. A lot of people went along with it because of the way the impending crisis was presented in the media. It was only natural that people thought they might meet with an early death if they didn't present themselves for the treatment. Remember the videos of people dropping dead in the street. We now know they were fake.

      Back then the message was you won't catch it and you won't pass it on, if you do as you are told. It was worded to give the impression that there was no choice, take it or die. Now we know it was all lies. Now people can mull over the truth, but only if they choose to.

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    5. Roy, Linda is referring to the fact that it was never about health, it is all about control. Evidence has emerged that it was a test to see how easily people can be manipulated. If people continue to go along with it and get all the drugs that are offered, that is funding the next stage of the plan.

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    6. Thank you for the response. I did not see any videos of people “dropping dead in the streets”. I do recall seeing the people hospitalized in Italy and New York. As to “evidence” that is was all a test to see how people can be manipulated, I would put put that in the same category as Steph’s reptilian species.

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  17. It all reminds me of my mum saying that she was offered thalidomide when she was expecting me - which she declined x

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    1. It also reminds me that my grandfather has to wear a calliper. He had polio as a child.

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    2. Very disappointed, Ilona, that you chose not to post my, truthful, remark about my grandfathers polio…and I thought this page was more open than others..ie you were letting people post something that you didn’t agree with. Ah well, your blog, your edit…so be it. It’s a pity that you don’t publish comments that aren’t offensive but are just against the narrative you chose to publish.

      Sad, as the young folk say….very sad…and also shows a lack of confidence in your narrative.

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    3. For goodness sake Anonymous, stop moaning. I have been out all day, and now I am editing the photo's I took and putting them into a post. What is your bloody name by the way? Now you have sent me this comment I feel less inclined to publish any more of your comments.

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    4. My comment was that the vaccine reminds me of my grandfather wearing a calliper because he caught polio. Sorry if it seemed to be moaning…and no need to swear or be nasty, I thought I was being quite respectful

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    5. Steff, I see that you did include your name on one of your comments. I don't know why you felt the need to bring your Grandfather into the conversation. As I have already said elsewhere, this situation is not like the diseases and vaccinations we had a long time ago. If you think bloody is a bad word, you should hear the rest of my spitting feathers vocabulary.

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    6. Flis. Be very grateful that your mum made the right decision.

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    7. I apologize for forgetting to include my name.

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    8. Thank you Steph. It does help.

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  18. What I don't understand is where some people get their ideas from. Microchips, altering your DNA, which is not possible. Actually, giving you the disease.
    Then I think of a little girl I cared for nearly forty years ago that died from encephalitis/meningitis following measles as her parents didn't believe in vaccinations. That was Agony. Smallpox almost wiped out and TB controllable to a point.

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    1. What I don't understand is why are people only getting their news from main stream television and newspapers, There are many more sources out there. Why do people keep harping back to the diseases and vaccinations of the past. This is an experiment, it was rushed out, without proper tests. Why did they line up to get it?

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    2. Actually it wasn’t rushed out without proper tests. It went through proper testing protocols

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    3. It didn't. The CEO of Pfizer has just said that they didn't test it for any long term efficacy

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    4. It was properly tested. Instead of stringing it out over years which is the usual way, it was all overlapped. The efficacy was only needed for a short term, while it was all sorted. The long-term efficacy is now coming into fruition.
      It has met the purpose it was intended for. Nothing else. You are right there plenty of areas to get your news from. But some people become narrow minded in time.
      I'm not bothered if someone has their vaccination or not. But I will always remember that little girl.

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  19. I will not be partaking, but I say to each his own. I’ve had the illness a few weeks ago and thankfully, recovered well. My concern with the jab is because I am a heart patient, but many would argue that’s exactly why I should get it.

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    1. It is known that once you have recovered from the illness your natural immunities have coped with it. If your heart condition is being monitored on a regular basis, and you eat well and exercise, and you don't put yourself at risk by mixing with crowds, you might be ok. Always check with your doctor. I am not a doctor.

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  20. I shall resume work on this post tomorrow.

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    1. This does seem to be a lot of work

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    2. Too right it is, Daisy. I have avoided lengthy conversations about this by deleting comments. I made an exception with this post. Let people have their say, I thought. And so they have. I might have to go back to deleting again.

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    3. I like that you let people have their say. As you say, people are entitled to their own opinions. I don’t think you need to comment in each one. unless you want to, of course.

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    4. You're right, Daisy. Most of the time I can't be bothered, that's why I delete, but sometimes I am in the mood to reply, because I care about people. It's raining so I might as well sit here at the keyboard. I have a dog walk this afternoon.

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  21. My husband became seriously ill and subsequently died, 3 weeks after his first AZ vaccination. From asymptotic to dead in 2.5 weeks. I will be lining up for my next jab, as soon as I get the opportunity, fingers crossed that I shall meet the same fate. Happy to take anyone else’s boosters for them, if they would like to travel.

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    1. Oh Julie, this made me cry. This is why I keep speaking out. Thousands more people, millions even, are in your situation. I hope you find the courage to carry on. Please don't give up hope. Lots of love. ilona xxx

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    2. I am so sorry for your loss, Julie.

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  22. For those who are fans of Dr John Campbell, he has a new video. He is very concerned about new research going on at The Boston University School of Medicine. He is warning that this research must stop. It is about Gain of Function research using enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (ePPP) research.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTZo9ieBKY&t=409s

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  23. Neil Oliver has come up with some enlightening monograms in the last few months. A very clever man who has his finger on the pulse. This one has 49,000 views. Listen to his carefully crafted words to the end. He gives us hope.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95K4phDex3U&t=10s

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  24. Universities in the us are forcing young people to be boosted. Without any scientific evidence….even just to visit for events. It’s horrific. Parents are being placed in horrible positions to make life altering decisions…..(health or no in person degree or even a high school educational event where it’s at a uni). God save us.

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    1. It is horrific. They are trying to move it on from emergency licence, so they can make it mandatory to get kids jabbbbed.

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  25. It is ever persons right to choose. Or at least it should be, working in healthcare I was mandated. But the boosters have been optional. What bothers me most is the fear that all this has caused. Their are people who still almost 3 years later are living in complete fear. Some people I know have pretty much become complete recluse. That’s not living life, always afraid to go out or have a visit with family and friends. I do believe COVID was and is real, just like the flu and strep and other things are real. But we must make up our own minds and feel confident. Also follow the $$$$$$$$.

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    1. Yes Tammy. It's all about the money. That is what is driving the plan forward to the next stage.

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  26. Covid is real .
    Vaccines save lives.
    But if you don’t want the vaccine then that’s your choice, don’t complain, it’s there to help. Let’s just get on with life.


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    1. You misunderstand my intentions. The only thing I am complaining about is that the jabb was never about health, it's not helping, it's making things worse. It is now killing more people than the virus is. People cannot get on with their lives. There is no long term data to support its efficacy. Watch what happens next. I don't know why I am replying to you when you don't have the decency to reveal your name.

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  27. If you don’t want to get vaccinated that’s fine . To be safe, stay home, wear a mask, avoid crowds , it’s all there for you to choose or not , stop complaining and let the rest of us get on with our lives.
    Im fully vaccinated with no side effects.
    I wasn’t bullied into getting the vaccine .
    It was available for me to make a choice.
    If you haven’t had covid, you’re lucky ,
    being fit and healthy makes no difference .
    I don’t follow social media sites with lies about the vaccine, they are posted to scare gullible people into joining the anti-vax community.



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    1. I am living my life as I see fit. I have no need to wear a mask, no need to get tested, and no need to stay at home. I do not live in fear. I do not have to present myself for multiple jabs, my natural immunity is working very well.

      You can do whatever you like with your life. No side effects now is all well and good, but what about the future. Good luck.

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  28. Ilona I am with you and Will on the 💉. You are right that everyone should choose for themselves. I finally got my natural antibodies in June 2022.
    I’m grateful that you allowed this open forum today, and I am troubled by the push to get the booster complete with half truths about its efficacy.
    Diet and exercise can go a long way in fighting any virus. I just wish the pharmaceutical companies had been forced to tell the truth and the doctors offered full disclosure.
    I fear the worst. I shudder for folks like sweet Julie who lost her husband and struggles to get through it.
    I’m grateful that the shot is still a choice and praying that continues to be true. Keep fighting the good fight, friend. I’m grateful for you and your blog.
    Patti in Cali

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    1. Thank you Patti. It's nice to hear from somebody who is wide awake. I agree with everything you say. In the beginning the truth was hidden, because the object of the exercise was to jabb the world. They had to lie to get people to comply. Look how they bullied people. You will lose your job if you don't get it. You can't go on holiday if you don't get it. You can't go to events if you don't get it. Millions of people believed the lies, but it is all coming out now.

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    2. @Patti: 'Ffizer' are being forced to tell the truth and are dumping data regarding their product every month. Breathtakingly scary, and probably the worst is yet to come. H x

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    3. Hellen M, it will all come out eventually. Court cases take a long time, the legal system is incredibly slow moving.

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    4. The thing that worries me Ilona, is are the courts free to do their job, if you know what I mean. H x

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  29. What I find breathtakingly scary is the amount of misinformation that is out there and the number of people believing it.

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    1. Yes, it is quite amazing, and most of it is generated by those in power who we should be able to trust. If people switched off the box in their house and started searching on the internet they would get a more balance picture.

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    2. @Roy: This data is being published by Pf ii zzer, about the trials they did before launching their product. Are you suggesting they are publishing misinformation?

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  30. You would probably enjoy this video on YouTube Ilona, https://youtu.be/JSECFCuqJOI which is only the tip of the iceberg but we'll worth a watch.

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    1. Thank you. I have seen it but I will watch it again.

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  31. I agree with Roy , it’s scary when you look at the amount of misinformation out there and the number of people believing it .
    What you read on social media isn’t always true . The anti-vax movement has scared a lot of people like yourself into believing that vaccines are harmful .

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    1. I really don't know why I am bothering to talk to you. You are well and truly brainwashed. The Government and Main Stream Media are the biggest peddlers of mis information. They lie because they are following orders. There is no Anti Vax movement. There are people who saw through all the lies and decided not to go along with it. I am not scared, millions are now facing life, that's if they are still alive, as damaged and disabled. Their lives have been taken away from them, they should be compensated for that. I suspect you are a paid troll.

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